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Post title: Is it OK to Share my WiFi? (Comcast)

Authored by: krisnelson

Date posted: Jun 4, 2007

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I'm curious. I have read the Comcast AUP and see the sections that prohibit retransmitting their service to other premises (i.e. over wireless), but does that still apply if you are transmitting it to an area that Comcast Service does not reach? I have several neighbors ~2 miles down the road who cannot get any kind of broadband service other than really bad satellite service. Is it acceptable for me to transmit a wireless signal to their area and provide them Internet service from my Comcast? Is it also then acceptable if they paid me a small fee for that service to help with my own Comcast fees? I would not want to collect more than my own bill amount, but if I provided service to 3 other homes that each pitched in $15/month toward my $60 Internet bill, that seems fair and acceptable. Your thoughts on this?

Brian,
Well, I can\'t offer you legal advice, but the current Comcast AUP (as of Nov 2, 2011), reads like this:
You agree that the Services and the Comcast Equipment will be used only for personal, residential, non-commercial purposes, unless otherwise specifically authorized by us in writing. You will not use the Comcast Equipment at any time at an address other than the Premises without our prior written authorization. You agree and represent that you will not resell or permit another to resell the Services in whole or in part.

There is no mention of whether the person you are sharing with can or cannot get Comcast service.
And then says this:
c. Suspension and Termination by Comcast. Under the conditions listed below, Comcast reserves the right, subject to applicable law, to act immediately and without notice to terminate or suspend the Services and/or to remove from the Services any information transmitted by or to any authorized users (e.g., email or voicemail). Comcast may take these actions if it: (1) determines that your use of the Service does not conform with the requirements set forth in this Agreement ...

So, in my (not offering legal advice, no serving as your attorney) reading of the current AUP, Comcast could suspend or terminate your service if you share it with others. They make an especially strong point about reserving the right to \"terminate or suspend the Services\" if you are \"reselling\" (which is what you propose to do as part of offsetting your costs). I would make your decision in that light.

Jason,

The problem I find amazing most people look over is that it is absolutely 100% illegal for your ISP to motor anything you do on the Internet.  
Unfortunately, while I would like this to be true, the law is rarely this simple, and ISPs can legally monitor your traffic (though that is not always clear either, depending on issues like whether they are cooperating with the gov't or not, whether they promised anonymity, if they are discriminating based on kinds of traffic, etc., etc.)

Certainly ISPs keep logs of various sorts, and reveal those logs at times. (Hopefully they insist on a court order, but I can't find a law that requires that. They own the logs, not you.)

ISPs have also considered monitoring for better advertising, although customer concerns (not really the law per se) have generally prevented widespread and overt adoption of such practices.

And there are several notable cases were ISP have been prosecuted for trying to monitor IPs and traffic content.  
It would be great if you could tell me which cases you found on this topic. The most notable example I found is the FCC ruling against Comcast (dealing with "net neutrality"), but that was based less on privacy protections than I would have liked to see. (It also was not a court case, but rather an administrative decision.)

You have amended rights of privacy that would be violated if ISPs monitored such activity without a warrant.  
Could you be a little more specific? I don't understand which "rights of privacy" you mean here. The warrant requirement in the U.S. Constitution really only applies to gov't actors, not private entities (unless they are acting as agents of the gov't). Thus your employer can search your office without a warrant, for example. Your ISP also doesn't need a warrant (if it acts alone, anyway).

If you have some more specifics for me, I would be happy to do some more research and analysis on this. It's an interesting area of the law.

I agree and disagree with this.
The problem I find amazing most people look over is that it is absolutely 100% illegal for your ISP to motor anything you do on the Internet. And there are several notable cases were ISP have been prosecuted for trying to monitor IPs and traffic content.
You have amended rights of privacy that would be violated if ISPs monitored such activity without a warrant.
And yes this is only the USA i am speaking for.

On top of that, why not host your free WIFI with good routing and hide your public clients with a good firmware like dd-wrt / openwrt. It is easy to set it up so that your, lets say 30 clients, share 2 or 3 virtual IPs. and then there is no way for your ISP to know who is connecting without violating privacy rights.

Hi,

Thanks so much for your detailed and insightful analysis of the Comcast terms of service, and how they relate to WiFi sharing.

I have to point out one fundamental difference between Whisher and Fon, whereas Whisher does not allow nor support reselling of one's connection, Fon's model is based on reselling your broadband connection to others (the so-called 'aliens'), in exchange of giving you roaming rights on the rest of the Fon network. With the 'bill' mode, you actually share revenue generated by paying visitors on your WiFi, and thus start to operate on commercial terms, something that ISPs would start looking into would Fon grow to a significant size.

Regards,

Mike (Whisher CTO)

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